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Backup ESX host? - 21.Sep.2008 11:07:22 PM   
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We currently run two ESX 3.5 Hosts with approx 14 VM's. We use commvault to run file level backups of the VM's which works perfectly, we also run a backup of the actual VM files through one of the ESX servers to allow restoration of a complete VM if needed.

I was just wondering if anybody bothers to backup the actual ESX install itself? Given we have two ESX servers running DRS and HA we don't have any issues with one host going down, and the ESX server itself is quite easy to reinstall.

Any thoughts?
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RE: Backup ESX host? - 19.Sep.2010 5:50:44 PM   
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I know this is an old question, but it's an interesting one.

Where I work, we don't back up each individual ESX host. We have four ESX hosts in our server cluster. If one fails, we'll simply replace it, install ESX, apply a host profile and add it back to the cluster. I guess it's almost like the host itself is an interchangable cog. We do back up the data inside each VM, of course, but the host itself chugs along and we use the cluster as our availability mechanism. Of course, we do back up the vCenter database as well, but that is the extent of our "ESX backup".

Scott

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RE: Backup ESX host? - 20.Sep.2010 2:55:24 PM   
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 Scott your answer is now on my check-list, "we do back up the vCenter database" some new VMware admins like me, always forget about the importance of the vCenter DB....

A few days ago i was playing with vMA to backup some ESXi host that arent being managed from vCenter and it works great, maybe psuedo can see if that is what hes looking for.

However, i think that Host Profile is not on the type of licensing that we purchased...

http://www.vmware.com/products/vsphere/buy/editions_comparison.html

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RE: Backup ESX host? - 22.Sep.2010 12:30:21 AM   
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Ariel -

Yeah... I forgot that host profiles were an Enterprise Plus feature. I don't understand why VMware made the decision to include host profiles only in Enterprise Plus (personally, I think the whole creation of the Enterprise Plus edition was nothing more than a way to gain revenue from clients "upgrading" from older editions that were on S&S, but that's another story :-))

The backup process wouldn't be TOO different without host profiles... backup vCenter. If an ESX host fails, add a new one, but rather than using host profiles, do a manual config, add it to the cluster and move on. If you have a pretty standard ESX config, you should be ok.

Which edition do you run? We do run Enterprise Plus at Westminster.

Scott

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RE: Backup ESX host? - 22.Sep.2010 11:11:33 AM   
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This is the first time we buy software from VMware and we are trying to add HA to a Moodle implementation so the best way was VMware vSphere.

We have Essentials PLUS..

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RE: Backup ESX host? - 22.Sep.2010 11:31:12 AM   
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Ariel -

Makes sense... how many ESX hosts and VMs do you have in your environment?

We just moved to Moodle this fall, but we're running it via Moodle Rooms off site.

Scott

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RE: Backup ESX host? - 22.Sep.2010 12:23:54 PM   
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 Just 2 ESXi and 3 VMs ATM... if i can convince the BOSS maybe we get a pair of R910 to build a bigger vSphere environment..

The ESXi host are (old) PE6850 with 24G RAM each and 2 Xeon. the bad thing is that those server don't have VT-x, so just x86 VMs for us.

The initial setup were 2 M610 for the project but those server were taken for MS SQL, they let me with those 6850... not bad for a first VMware official virtualization project over here.

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RE: Backup ESX host? - 23.Sep.2010 1:07:26 AM   
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Ariel -

You were robbed! :-)

The M610s are a nice blade. We use M600s and M610s in our chassis. Love Dell stuff.

What do you use for a SAN?

On a totally different front, how do you guys like Moodle? We're in our first semester with it and, so far, so good.

Scott

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RE: Backup ESX host? - 23.Sep.2010 10:43:18 AM   
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 Yeah I know.. i was the victim here.. after all the work i put to get those blade they just take it!! :)

talking about Moodle, we are using it since 2005 and i was the programmer and administrator back then! .... Is a great software with great potential and the best part, is FREE.

http://eva.unapec.edu.do/moodle



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RE: Backup ESX host? - 29.Oct.2010 12:48:48 AM   
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I like your theme. Clean and simple!

Have you tested Moodle 2.0 at all? How different is it from 1.9?

Scott

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RE: Backup ESX host? - 29.Oct.2010 11:38:13 AM   
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I have not yet tested 2.0..... I was in charge of our moodle implementation since the beginning (2005) but now there are other people here who are working on that..

Ours is 1.9 with a few tweaks, we are running a local CVS and merge with the current release, and other programming stuffs. For example, we are syncing with 2 Windows AD, for that we fork the main LDAP addon.  

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